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Thursday, June 3, 2010

This Girl Could Have Been Saved

This is meant to be a photography/life genre-type blog. But I also dedicate some space for human concerns. 


Well, recently I just read this note from Facebook, and gosh, I felt disappointed by the 2 workers who won't let out the fire extinguishers for the sake of the victim. 

Have to censored out the bad words. I got a note to the original author of this note here as well. 

F*** BHP!!!!! F*** BHP!!! why? let me tell you!!

this morning approx 3.20am, at Cheras Tmn Pertama roundabout,

saw a freak accident, involving a Vios, Myvi and a Lorry.

im one the first badge who arrive, mean it just happen maybe seconds ago.

Vios believe to be turtle and badly damaged. When im passing by the vios, rear passenger started to pull out the front driver and front passenger.

then when i pass the Myvi, the car was totally sardine. Heard one girl was yelling cos piined inside. I stop my car then run towards the myvi to offer a hand while calling 999 emergency line to request for ambulance and bomba.

then saw fire spark at the engine bay of myvi. while still on the phone with emergency line to provide more details, i run back to my car and drive to BHP station which is just less than 500m away from the scene.

then i request for the fire extingusher from the attendant which is kept inside. There was 4 extingusher on the ground. But the attendant refuse to pass to me.

the BHP attendant claimed dat the door cant be open.

then i shout at him, i need it! i want it! someone is pinned inside the car and its started to burn!

then the BHP attendant keep repeating he kenot borrow and open the door.

then i was like WTF! if ur kiosk is burning can u come out? then he replied yes.

then he still say he kenot open the door. Then he say his boss wont allowed to borrow. WTF!!!

then i started to amuk kicking the kiosk and punching the glass of the kiosk.

i even throw my IC to him say that if im dun return u report police.

i saw i borrow.. if i use it i will pay for it. then he keep on just smile at me.

then he ask another partner to come out. Then i start shouting and yelling at them with bad words saying dat if the girl dies you two are the murderer.

then the 2nd BHP attendant shout back at me.

i demand for their names, i told them i would complain bout them,

then the 2nd attendant copy down my number plate and said that all my acts been recorded on CCTV and he gonna report to police tumoro. I challenged him.

then i drove off back to the scene.. the car was totally burning and the poor girl was burn alive inside.

then i spoke to the Bomba and PDRM how many casualties was inside. they told me one girl.

Then i spoke to PDRM about the incident happen in BHP.. then the policemen also scold with anger WTF with them.. if i could get the fire extingushier.. the girl might be saved.

then the Policemen ask me to go police station to report a cover about the BHP, and he assured me that the stupid BHP wont get to report on me.

Personally i would like to ask, how much does 4 fire extingusher cost? isit more expensive than a life?

would like to ask the BHP petrol station's boss! u cant afford to lose 4 fire extingusher then u better closed down your station!!!! F*** you boss!!!!

and this is to BHP MALAYSIA!! seens your procedure to keep all safety gadget inside the kiosk... if anything happen during refueling... is your attendant gonna open the door to help? seens he claimed that the door cant be open after hours??

F*** YOU BHP!!! F*** YOU!!!

i personally from now on will boycott BHP... i dont know how about you all!!!

gonna give BHP HQ a call tumoro... see what the f*** will they say about this kind of safety measurement they have!!!!!


for the two BHP attendant!!! you are the murderer!!!!!
It's really sad to read on something like this. I mean, the death of this girl is preventable. The lost of 4 fire extinguishers cannot be matched with the loss of a life. Not even money can buy it. 


And this is all depicting a sick society - A "society" where nobody trusts each other, where everybody is self-protective and evasive. Since young, we're told not to talk to strangers. It's all human security. 


You can't blame security at the same time, because people tend not to realize the true reason behind crimes and wars. It's because of the environment. I believe people don't really want to be thieves or robbers, but they have to because they are desperate to survive just like us - being an economic slave in the working world.


Back to the incident, well if people trusts each other better, would this girl be saved from the first place? Surely she could be saved, but this is not the ideal world that we're thinking. The reality hurts, as we're living in a shallow melting pot (as I describe it). 


To the author: 


You deserve to express your anger, though I tend to despise rude and arrogant people. You did the right thing by trying to save the girl out from the Myvi. But anyway, don't blame the people, blame the game. Those 2 workers are just doing their job (serving the system - the game). They are just not convinced enough and they're afraid to make a mess in their jobs. 


Don't feel too sorry for unable to save the girl, you did your best. 


My point is - blame the system. Because of profits and wealth, or the struggle to overcome scarcity, people tend to be dispersed in society. And because of that, there are crimes, and there are security, and thus, within the hustle and the bustle of the environment, society becomes dismembered without unity, where everybody is self-protective and fake. 


Currently praying for a positive social cataclysm - hopefully everyone can get awakened for a better social conciousness. 


UPDATED (Kommunitikini) 
BHP government relations manager Abdul Kaiyum when contacted claimed that the BHP attendants refused to open the door for Teo as he was not ‘acting calmly’ when asking for assistance. Neither did they refer to their supervisor because it was past midnight.
In defence of the staff in charge, he said that the two of them previously had been attacked and beaten up by assailants while on duty at the station.
Abdul Kaiyum said that BHP would
hold a press conference over the matter this coming Monday, June 7.
See, don't blame the people, blame the game.

36 comments:

toninkush said...

Like your post. You actually have a thorough thought. Where as I was just too pissed to think.

kumfye said...

sad case

Jaerragus said...

*sigh...civilization.....

Victor Tan said...

toninkush: you just need to do more observation on ur surroundings. Then u'll realize something is very amiss.

kumfye; yep. sadly

jaer: we're not civilized yet. Our society is dispersed.

Tinny said...

life is precious. sad. How could they...*goosebumps*

Kristy Anne Nunis said...

o.o...WTF !

Victor Tan said...

Tinny: So live like you're dying - Kris Allen :)

Kristy: yepp, sadly

Lukey Cher Hong said...

imagine if ur loved one (ur family for example) was inside the burning car, would you not get angry? knowing that there's way to save them but you can't do anything?

no matter how i look at it, i still think that it's still the BHP attendant's fault. if someone came to me and say that they need to borrow money, i may be wary. but how many people would want to cheat you of your fire extinguisher?

on my opinion, the BHP attendant's action can never be justified. they should be tried for manslaughter.

Victor Tan said...

Dori:

Let's take emotions aside. As you got ur point right here. And I agreed with it. :) if the writer's a family/ relative/ loved ones.

Now, let us go to the BHP workers' shoes. OF course, to me, they are wrong, but I took the societal patterns in account. Imagine u're working, and you doubt this person who is rude (though I know he's desperate to save someone, but let's imagine on him, k?) And then at the same time, you're afraid to ignore your boss' rules and fear that you'll lose ur fire extinguisher and u'll get fired because of that.

Even if there's an accident 500m away, the workers can assume that the writer is a thief trying to make use of the event to steal the extinguishers.

And that is why I'm blaming the mentality of the society. If we trust each other better, then no tragedies will occur. All 3 cars got their owners survived.

Now back to my perception here, obviously the workers tend not to trust the writer, EVEN if they were given his IC card. That is too over-protective. But still, I don't blame the people, blame the system itself.

Vin Tsen Gan said...

Life's like that la :(

Lukey Cher Hong said...

@Victor:

So you're saying that the boss is more important? And it's ok to sacrifice your principles to keep your job?

I know where you're coming from and i assume you have taken Sociology courses before, but the system is not only the one to be blamed here.

The system does play a role but not all. If we were to lay the blame on the system everytime a crime occurs, then i can just go out to streets, murder someone and say that the system forces me to do that.

We human as individuals are not merely the passive recipients of what the system gives us, we do and can have the ability to resist pressures and not conform to societal trends. The problem is whether we want to or not only.

Victor Tan said...

But then there is a reason for everything. Well, if you murder in that manner, that means you are purposely murdering somebody without any reason.

Yes, you finally got my point. But still I insist, the system is still to be blamed. WE have the ability to resist, but not as a whole. Because we are all dispersed, not everybody will think the same way you do in a public opinion.

I'm not talking about the boss either. Of course, the boss din expect such emergencies to happen in the morning, did he? It's also hard to tell if he will lend the fire extinguisher to the writer when he was present at the scene.

And still, I insist. The outcome of the system is to be blamed. It's pointless to blame people. All of these never happened intentionally.

Back to ur opinion on crime - I know it sounds impossible, but when it comes to crime, if more of us know that stuff and its sources, why not change the environment? Remember my Zeitgeist post? My point is here. That is why I typed my last para in this way =)

This system is all human behaviour generated. We taken it as our human "nature" thus we tend to accept it as this is how humans live. We can change actually, if we can think outside the box.

Victor Tan said...

*This system generates human behaviour.....and we'd taken it as our* correction

kenwooi said...

sighs.. wthh.. i feel so sorry for the girl as well! the bhp people at the kiosk is just nonsense! =/

Victor Tan said...

kenwooi: they din expect such things to happen. They are wrong as they are too overprotective. But you can't blame humans too much.

Ch3rry said...

I agree with you. Blame the game we humans have created. I feel (partially) sorry for the workers too.

Priscilla Wong said...

I just think that its not anyone's fault, but somehow.. I think its fated. And Im sure theres a better way of handling this kind of situation for the petrol station workers. I understand you don't want to get robbed and all. Its the company's role now to teach the procedures to the workers. And not calling the supervisor just bcos its past midnight is preposterous. Its a life and death situation. No matter what, you have to call. Someone should figure out a way to handle this situation seriously. It is a lesson for every petrol station out there. Keep a fire hydrant outside the building. Its better to risk it being stolen, than risking lives at stack.

Victor Tan said...

Pris: I'm sorry to say, I disagree. This fate can be altered, for her death is still preventable.

But you're right on not blaming any single humans involved. When I heard the latest update, then I was certainly correct for maintaining my stand on not to blame the 2 workers - as they were once beaten up during duty. Plus, due to bureaucracy, they must obey what their superiors told them to do. :) But this emergency suddenly appears, and it is out of their norms.

This is an example of how a sick society looks like - self-protectiveness, people don't trust each other, etc. It is the system that causes society to be sick. And that is why the chains of misunderstandings happen.

Priscilla Wong said...

Oh by fated, I mean, it happened to alarm the people nowadays. Just like an air crash, it happened, and it's gonna help people to know what to improve in the aircraft or prevent the fault.
This is a good chance for the society to learn. If the death of one girl is enough to wake the whole society, I think its worth it, so next time, there won't be a situation like this again.
But I don't think this case is going to cause such a big impact. But what do I know.. We must hold hope for the improvement of our society. Or we will all be damned by this horrible selfishness and 'self-protectiveness'

nicole said...

nobody at all at the BHP station during that time??? He said it was around 500m. Thats quite near!!! Nobody verified that Akina wasn't lying????? Stupid attendants! I know they will be haunt by their actions forever event hough it wasnt their fault.

Victor Tan said...

nicole: What if the attendants assumed that this Akina Teo is trying to mke use of a co-incidence to steal? I'm just stepping on their shoes. Still, it's pointless to blame anybody.

Pris: Thst is why, I'm hoping for a social change. Society is sick and our today's world is not civilized. But I can see improvement throughout history. From our ancestors who believed too much in animism, to the new inventions of technology, to new philosophies, to the people's mentality against tyranny and war. I hope some day people will realize that we are still uncivilized and our social ways must change for the goof of humanity.

MsXeRoZ Nicole said...

I agree with u, Malaysia has this problems of distrusting people. I guess this attitude is being cultured due to us being conned. Even criminals use our kind hearts to manipulate us.

You see, when i give away free movie tickets to stranger, they'll look at me one kind, as though there's a trick behind free stuff.

Jessy said...

I blame both human and game. Everyone is just selfish...

nicole said...

Well, if that's what they really think (which I dont think so according to Bernama news) then I have nothing to say. Im not blaming anyone, but as I said previously their memory will haunt them forever, knowing that they actually can make a difference.

Victor Tan said...

Nicole: yeap, specially that lorry driver.

Jessy: What makes the society selfish? Get the point here? The system, isn't it? Not the human. They're just bounded by their own stuffs. It's chains of misunderstandings.

MsXeroz: Yes, the Malaysian society is more self-protective. When I travelled in Australia, I felt that the locals over there are more interacting than here.

Lil Ms Thong said...

i still think the BHP attendants is to be blamed. and partly is the vios driver. but wat has happened, has already happened. wat can be prevented was not done.

would anyone leave their IC just to rob the kiosk? sure it could be a fake IC or watever but 2 vs 1. the girl was dying in the car and the BHP attendant still got time to think of wat will be loss in the kiosk?

u see, refusing to help has causes them being called murderer... but if they helped, they would be called heroes...

i understand what u guys saying about the BHP attendants are afraid if being robbed and all that but how big can a fire extinguser be?

now, dont blame human nor the game. if its u, will u open a small gap and pass him the fire extinguser?

Victor Tan said...

What about you then? Will you help?

I will help if I saw what happened. However, even when there's an accident 500 metres away I might sense that someone can use the chance of that event to steal something away. Furthermore, even if were given the IC, you can't even tell if it's fake, right? Nowadays things can be shaped through photoshop. Even fake passports or smart cards can be designed through it.

Time to think on social concerns, and get a better picture.

Lil Ms Thong said...

obviously i will help.

it takes one person to make a change. and they could have make that change.

the girl is now dead. and worst, unidentified identity... would u want your family dont know your whereabouts?

Victor Tan said...

"GREED AND COMPETITION ARE NOT THE RESULT OF IMMUTABLE HUMAN TEMPERMENT…GREED AND FEAR OF SCARCITY ARE IN FACT BEING CREATED AND AMPLIFIED …THE DIRECT CONSEQUENCE IS THAT WE HAVE TO FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER IN ORDER TO SURVIVE"
-Bernard Lietaer, Founder of the EU Currency System

And that is why we have to be so secured and we have to focus on our self-interest more. Crimes are not-so-rare in this country as you see. I blame the system because it generates human behaviour that divides men, and thus in this case, it causes the people involved to have a chain of misunderstandings that make them unable to save the girl from death.

Social disposition, get it? :)

Victor Tan said...

As I said, this is a chain of misunderstandings. Of course nobody wants to kill somebody. At first I put the blame on the 2 workers, and then my social science mindset came in as I looked into the whole issue.

Akina saw girl,

girl needs help,

Akina went to the BHP,

attendants don't trust Akina (misunderstanding #1),

Akina pressed hard,

attendant still don't trust him
(notice the experiences of these attendants got beaten up)
- misunderstandings and human security (personal experience from the workers' shoes)

and the boss' order (of course he din expect such accidents happen),

After the incident, Akina was blamed by the police for slow response, which happened due to the "misunderstandings" and distrusts by the BHP attendants. But what causes these distrusts?

Plus, read my previous comment with the quote by Bernard Lietaer. You'll get more ideas on what I'm trying to speak out.

Teh Tarik Drinker said...

Was discussing with my fellow colleagues on this matter and I would quote some of the things that were discussed by us. As much that it is a travesty to waste a life this way, it is even more sad for us to live in a society that helping others, regardless what the reason behind it, is considered a taboo and should be approached with caution.

I believe that necessary action should be taken to the two as an act such as that should warrant to either ommission causing to death or gross negligence amounting to homicide.

Kudos on your take on this matter. Real good write up.

Victor Tan said...

Teh Tarik: The court of public opinion is sided against the 2 attendants who have nothing wrong as they did not see the accident coming. It had been stated that they had encountered robberies and got beaten up during duty hours. Of course our human behaviours are shaped, and in this case, their personal experiences made them self-defensive.

We cannot afford to continue living in this system. It had already perhaps killed millions of preventable deaths around the world, not to mention had killed billions of people due to war, poverty, hunger and preventable diseases. That's my real highlight from taking this matter up.

Victor Tan said...

*it had already failed to prevent millions of death around the world

Yasushi said...

Dear Victor
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"attendant still don't trust him
(notice the experiences of these attendants got beaten up)
- misunderstandings and human security (personal experience from the workers' shoes)"
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Since they had bad personal experience, attendants would have learned lessons from the experience for security sakeness. From the lessons, they should have sensed and observed the way the robbers showing up and demanding. But the writer came alone without even bringing up any danger tools on his hand and only requested for fire extinguisher for life saving emergency albeit using inappropriate violence manner by cursing the attendant. And yet the attendants still refusing anything at all. Why? If they phobia of the system that they risking their job merely their boss would fire him for the loss of fire extinguisher, why in Malaysia, workers still being employed at same workplace albeit the workplace been robbed when they handed cash to the robber? Even the manager has to unlock the security box without fear to break the system or boss's order?? It is not about human behaviour shaped from their bad experience for this case because the attendant can create habit by finding a way/solution for the writer if their bad experience can make them stronger and alertful. For example, since the writer needed the fire extinguisher urgently in violence manner, they can ask him to step back 100m and put the fire extinguisher outside the security door. At least a small help can make a difference. From the writer's story, it is obvious the attendant didn't even bother anyway, leading to the loss of poor girl indirectly.

My condolence to the deceased's family. May she R.I.P.

Victor Tan said...

Yashshi;

You have to know another thing when it comes to understanding social pathology - Human behaviour is not just learned, it's also about interpretation - how the person interprets his/her environment. Here, everybody has their own schema (perception) on how they react and behave in one situation (reactions to the source - Psychology terms).

Well, you mention how dangerless Akina approached the attendants. People do understand that crime rates nowadays are not only increasing, they also acknowledged that criminals are getting smarter and smarter. If they don't sense theft, they may sense frauds.

I think I also answered ur part on inappropriate aggresive behaviour. That worsens the situation, increasing the resistance to lend over the extinguisher. You won't trust a person that you hate. But of course, I don't blame Akina for his deeds, for it is obvious for somebody not to be calm specially in that crucial minutes when he was attempting to save the victim.

That is why you don't trust salesperson and you will ignore them at all means necessary even if they are unarmed.

Second,

"Why in Malaysia, workers still being employed at same workplace albeit the workplace been robbed when they handed cash to the robber?"

Some employers are forgivers, some are not. Okay, within an office, there is the working class, and the ruling class. Both classes don't trust each other. If you are working, you can feel some gap between you, your colleagues and your boss. Think of the hierarchy. And thus, they can fear that they may lost their job. It's all learned and interpreted from the system. Maybe they were once fired in the past?

Now to the context of human behaviour, once again, we are all bounded by the system we're living in. Of course, within an immediate moment, they won't think much about their choices (or never thought about it) in the system while they were bounded to argue or "defend" their grounds with an uncalmed Akina who was saving the girl.

And if I mention from the system context, we all tend to be bounded with the system, thus we are not taught enough how to think outside the box. For example, will you trust a stranger that easily as what you suggested? Of course, that would make a difference, but in reality, society today is dispersed and segregated. Thus, strangers will not trust each other.

Again, it is still about human behaviour that was shaped under the system. When I looked at Akina's viewpoint, I don't jump into conclusions. I looked at it in a societal perception. Of course, in the court of public opinion, the 2 attendants were losing the case tremendously because:

1. The story hits them from a more credible source, and Akina told about all his attempts to convince the workers to lend him the extinguisher. (The ethos factor)

2. Social stratification (social schema). I notice that people underestimated these 2 characters in the story.

esthermelvin said...

良言一句三冬暖,惡語傷人六月寒。..................................................